{"id":2294,"date":"2022-10-09T16:54:36","date_gmt":"2022-10-09T14:54:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/airap.asso.fr\/?page_id=2294"},"modified":"2025-10-19T10:30:05","modified_gmt":"2025-10-19T08:30:05","slug":"une-profession-que-lon-assassine","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/airap.asso.fr\/?page_id=2294","title":{"rendered":"Une profession que l&rsquo;on assassine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Une profession que l&rsquo;on assassine<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Le RTM a \u00e9t\u00e9 longtemps un organisme respect\u00e9, d\u00e9pendant de l\u2019ONF, EPIC (\u00e9tablissement \u00e0 caract\u00e8re industriel et commercial) sous la double tutelle des minist\u00e8res de l\u2019Agriculture et de la Transition \u00e9cologique. Dans le domaine des avalanches, la qualit\u00e9 de ses sp\u00e9cialistes apportait une s\u00e9curit\u00e9 aux DDT (direction d\u00e9partementale des territoires) en charge de l\u2019affichage des risques au nom de l\u2019Etat. \u00a0Il y a toujours , au RTM, un nombre important de personnes de qualit\u00e9, attach\u00e9es \u00e0 faire en sorte que les risques en mati\u00e8re d\u2019avalanches soient bien cartographi\u00e9s. Les r\u00e9ductions d\u2019effectifs, les moindres ressources, parfois le manque d\u2019exp\u00e9rience r\u00e9elle de la montagne de certains du fait de leur jeunesse, ont amen\u00e9 l\u2019autorit\u00e9 de tutelle \u00e0 demander au RTM de ne plus faire de PPR A (plan de pr\u00e9vention des risques avalanches). \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0Parall\u00e8lement, il a \u00e9t\u00e9 demand\u00e9 au RTM d\u2019assurer un certain d\u00e9veloppement commercial, cad de r\u00e9aliser un chiffre d\u2019affaires aupr\u00e8s de mandants priv\u00e9s. Est-ce cela qui a amen\u00e9 certains comportements qui interpellent sur le plan de l\u2019\u00e9thique\u00a0?\u00a0En m\u00eame temps, les DDT continuent \u00e0 trouver confortable de s\u2019appuyer sur un organisme, comp\u00e9tent encore dans son ensemble, en lui confiant assez syst\u00e9matiquement des missions d\u2019AMO (assistance \u00e0 maitrise d\u2019ouvrage), en amont des nouveaux PPR. \u00a0La lenteur, du fait, en partie, de son manque d\u2019effectifs, leur para\u00eet justifier, ainsi qu\u2019\u00e0 leur pr\u00e9fet, de ne pas activer l\u2019actualisation des cartes d\u2019avalanches l\u00e0 o\u00f9 il est signal\u00e9 (via les SSA H (sites sensibles aux avalanches en zones habit\u00e9es) dont la liste a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9tablie par l&rsquo;INRAE, (\u00e0 la demande de l&rsquo;Etat, bien s\u00fbr) qu\u2019elles sont \u00e0 revoir au vu des nouvelles dispositions du guide m\u00e9thodologique de 2015 (prises en compte de l\u2019al\u00e9a de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence exceptionnel (ARE, zones jaunes). <strong>Une carte incompl\u00e8te est une carte fausse. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Au sein des DDT, beaucoup sembles oublier que, d\u00e8s 2019, l&rsquo;Etat a demand\u00e9 que des PAC (porter \u00e0 connaissance) soient r\u00e9alis\u00e9s pour cartographier\u00a0uniquement les couloir\u00a0d&rsquo;avalanches\u00a0signal\u00e9s comme\u00a0particuli\u00e8rement\u00a0dangereux (SSA H forts ou douteux) \u00a0moyen sans doute trop simple, trop rapide et trop peu couteux&#8230; \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0Le reste de l\u2019histoire, c\u2019est une profession que l\u2019on assassine, celle des bureaux d\u2019\u00e9tudes priv\u00e9s sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9s en avalanches.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Le minist\u00e8re de la Transition \u00e9cologique semble ent\u00e9riner cette situation, aux cons\u00e9quences mortelles peut-\u00eatre un jour, puisque les cartes ne sont pas mises \u00e0 jour.<\/p>\n<p>Les explications d\u00e9taill\u00e9es de ce processus ont \u00e9t\u00e9 transmises \u00e0 la DGPR (direction g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de la pr\u00e9vention des risques) du minist\u00e8re de la Transition \u00e9cologique dans une note de 10 pages sur un certain nombre de sujets. Elles sont reprises ci-dessous dans ce texte extrait (pages 7, 8 et 9) de cette note<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0\u00bb \u00a0e &#8211; la m\u00e9thode et le r\u00f4le du RTM en tant qu\u2019AMO<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00a0Commentaire de la page 6, \u00a7 5 de la note m\u00e9thodologique de\u00a0f\u00e9vrier 2022,\u00a0publi\u00e9e par la DGPR (voir note ci-jointe)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Ce long paragraphe nous intrigue et m\u00e9rite quelques \u00e9claircissements vu le contexte actuel.\u00a0Il nous semble m\u00eame tout \u00e0 fait inappropri\u00e9 dans cette note.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>En tant qu\u2019AIRAP, organisme ind\u00e9pendant nous l\u2019avons montr\u00e9, il nous choque m\u00eame pour les raisons\u00a0expos\u00e9es ci-dessous.Par ailleurs, nous pouvons et osons dire tout haut ce que beaucoup ne peuvent, sans doute, dire sauf \u00e0 \u00eatre ray\u00e9 de toute possibilit\u00e9s d\u2019interventions dans ce monde tr\u00e8s \u00e9troit des sp\u00e9cialistes des PPR en France patronn\u00e9 par le RTM<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; la r\u00e9daction de cette note<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; Le RTM a tenu la plume, en tant qu\u2019animateur et secr\u00e9taire du groupe de travail.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Nous sommes surpris du nombre de personnes cit\u00e9es comme ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 membre de ce groupe de travail et qui n\u2019ont pas ou quasiment pas, pu participer \u00e0 cette r\u00e9flexion dsur les nouvelles cartographies de l\u2019ARE, ce , pour des motifs divers\u2026 (d\u00e9part \u00e0 la retraite, mutation ou autres\u2026)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Notre interpr\u00e9tation, au vu de notre exp\u00e9rience, relative bien s\u00fbr, mais fond\u00e9e sur quelques exemples pr\u00e9cis, est expos\u00e9e ci-dessous.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; le RTM, r\u00e9dacteur, sugg\u00e8re, en somme, qu\u2019il peut \u00eatre fait appel \u00e0 lui pour une AMO en amont de la consultation des bureaux d\u2019\u00e9tudes \u00ab\u00a0lorsque le contexte d\u00e9partemental s\u2019y pr\u00eate\u00a0\u00bb (page 6 chapitre 5 \u00a74).<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Que signifie cette expression\u00a0? Connaissant les liens historiques entre quelques personnes du RTM et des personnes, en Savoie et en Is\u00e8re en particulier, d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9voqu\u00e9es, elle nous inqui\u00e8te.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Surprenant m\u00e9lange des genres qui para\u00eet, par ailleurs, \u00eatre cautionn\u00e9 par les \u00ab\u00a0membres du groupe de travail\u00a0\u00bb constitu\u00e9 des personnes que l\u2019on fait semblant, ainsi, d\u2019avoir int\u00e9gr\u00e9 \u00e0 la r\u00e9flexion sur tous les aspects de cette note m\u00e9thodologique pour en justifier le contenu.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Dans la pratique, quelle belle mani\u00e8re de t\u00e9moigner d\u2019un souci de continuer \u00e0 rester en ma\u00eetrise de missions et donc de chiffre d\u2019affaires alors que les nouvelles dispositions depuis 2005 ne donnent plus la charge au RTM d\u2019\u00e9laborer les PPRA (elles donnent aux pr\u00e9fets, en revanche, la possibilit\u00e9 de consulter le RTM pour valider le travail des bureaux d\u2019\u00e9tudes et non pas pour le cadrer au d\u00e9part).<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Or, le CGEDD reprenait dans une note de 2015 consacr\u00e9e au RTM les termes suivants<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00ab Cependant pour \u00e9viter des conflits d\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat potentiels avec les autres r\u00f4les du service, la DGPR a souhait\u00e9 que le SRTM ne se voie plus confier de r\u00f4le de bureau d\u2019\u00e9tudes dans l\u2019\u00e9laboration des PPR, nonobstant sa connaissance du terrain, des al\u00e9as et des enjeux, et l\u2019int\u00e9r\u00eat que pr\u00e9sente une conception du zonage assise sur la bonne connaissance et l\u2019exp\u00e9rience\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Les conclusions imm\u00e9diates de ces missions d\u2019AMO ont toutes les chances d\u2019\u00eatre les suivantes\u00a0:<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211;\u00a0 c\u2019est finalement le RTM qui risque de choisir le bureau d\u2019\u00e9tudes en le sugg\u00e9rant \u00e0 la DDT qui n\u2019aura pas \u00e0 se pr\u00e9occuper de cette question<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; le bureau d\u2019\u00e9tudes choisi le sera en fonction du co\u00fbt le plus bas, puisque le travail aura \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0m\u00e2ch\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb par le RTM. Ce sera donc un bureau d\u2019\u00e9tudes dont les membres seront les plus jeunes donc les moins exp\u00e9riment\u00e9s car les moins pay\u00e9s qui seront nomm\u00e9s pour analyser des couloirs d\u00e9j\u00e0 cadr\u00e9s par le RTM.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; les bureaux d\u2019\u00e9tudes, moins bien disant car plus exp\u00e9riment\u00e9s, qu\u2019ils soient fran\u00e7ais ou \u00e9trangers, ne r\u00e9pondront plus \u00e0 ces appels d\u2019offres qu\u2019ils sauront ne pas pouvoir remporter,<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; la tendance naturelle pour certains jeunes nivologues sans beaucoup d\u2019exp\u00e9rience de terrains sera de d\u00e9finir l\u2019ARE comme la simple prolongation, l\u2019extension de l\u2019ARC, ce qui est largement le contraire de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 et seront tent\u00e9s de se reposer sur l\u2019utilisation prioritaire d\u2019une mod\u00e9lisation puisque l\u2019exp\u00e9rience du terrain, la premi\u00e8re qualit\u00e9 d\u2019un nivologue exp\u00e9riment\u00e9, ne sera pas pr\u00e9sente.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; le choix du bureau d\u2019\u00e9tudes sera aussi largement influenc\u00e9 par le RTM, tout le monde \u00e9tant ainsi \u00ab\u00a0couvert\u00a0\u00bb.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; de plus, quel beau moyen de retarder \u00e0 un horizon lointain, la mise en \u0153uvre des modifications de recherche d\u2019al\u00e9as\u00a0puisque le RTM, dont les effectifs se sont r\u00e9duits au fil des ans, n\u2019a pas beaucoup de disponibilit\u00e9s, par manque de temps, pour faire des AMO en amont. Mais il s\u2019assure ainsi d\u2019un plan de charge sur le long terme.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>S\u2019organise ainsi le retard m\u00e9canique, souhait\u00e9 par beaucoup (avec la DGPR qui se dit spectateur impuissant &#8211; l\u2019est-elle r\u00e9ellement\u00a0?), \u00e0 la mise en \u0153uvre de l\u2019ARE en France, jusqu\u2019au jour o\u00f9 un vrai drame surviendra\u2026mais dans 299 ans\u2026<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Et d\u2019ici l\u00e0 que de beaux projets immobiliers r\u00e9alis\u00e9s en zone d\u2019ARE sans que les occupants soient avertis du danger !<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; plan de charge assur\u00e9 de cette mani\u00e8re pour le RTM (ce n\u2019est pas l\u2019objet de d\u00e9part de cette note m\u00e9thodologique pourtant)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; porte ouverte \u00e0 ce que l\u2019on appelle, en langage gentil, les \u00ab\u00a0habitudes de travail \u00ab<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8211; absence de regard ind\u00e9pendant et d\u2019exp\u00e9rience confront\u00e9e \u00e0 la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du m\u00e9tier en Europe.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>A notre connaissance, il est int\u00e9ressant de voir que, d\u00e9j\u00e0, il n\u2019y a pratiquement plus d\u2019intervenants \u00e9trangers dans ces mises \u00e0 jour de PPR.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Une profession que l&rsquo;on assassine Le RTM a \u00e9t\u00e9 longtemps un organisme respect\u00e9, d\u00e9pendant de l\u2019ONF, EPIC (\u00e9tablissement \u00e0 caract\u00e8re industriel et commercial) sous la double tutelle des minist\u00e8res de l\u2019Agriculture et de la Transition \u00e9cologique. 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